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Qldelsie Silver Member Giles Cooper
Benowa, Queensland, Australia   AUS
New (70 year old) lad from Queensland here. A friend of mine owns a (virtually standard) 1954 BN1 that is an ex LHD California car but now RHD in Australia, and has kindly (?eye rolling smiley) invited me to join him on the 2019 Peking to Paris ERA rally ! My job is to prepare the car as best I can for crossing the Gobi Desert ! I am currently in the UK and will be spending the next week or so at the AH places here to not only learn a bit, but also to buy spare parts - HD Springs, 5 stud axles, etc etc. I am not a total newby as I had a 3000 Mk III in UK in the 1970's, and more recently took an S1 Lotus Elise round Laguna Seca and up Pikes Peak before going up the Haul Road to the Alaskan Arctic Circle as far as the Atigun Pass, but then I guess all that does is qualify me as stupid !! Luckily I have saner people around me ! I have also just returned from wandering from Alaska down to the bottom of S America by road, as well as from the Norwegian/Russian border down to N Africa and the Sahara before coming home via Iceland, Newfoundland, Canada etc to Seattle and a ship back to Aus, but that, as they say, is another story !
Just found this site, and have spent the day reading (and taking notes of) lots of interesting discussions on here. Hopefully by starting a thread about our adventure (which at this stage is all about preparing the car to go (and survive) where no Big Healey has yet gone), ongoing discussions will give us lots of ideas of things to make it all work. If anyone wants to see more about our trip, have a look at 2019 Peking to Paris This blog is a work in progress, so please be patient with it !!
Thanks, Giles
PS We already know we are crazy, so if possible would like to skip the "you will never make it" comments and move straight into the "here's an idea that might help" mode !! Cheers



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Dougie Doug Escriva
Portland, Oregon, USA   USA
You might want to post on the Motorsports forum to get more specific car prep information. Good Luckthumbs up

NaDaDawgRacer John Jones
Waxhaw, NC, USA   USA
Giles
Gave a friend here who was I Switzerland when the last P to P came thru there and he said we needed to run since according to his research a AH had not run the rally. I told him would be in and was prepared to make the build if he just can find the $$$.
So far he hasn't held up his end of the plan but I just reminded him that he is running behind.
Good luck
John

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Qldelsie Silver Member Giles Cooper
Benowa, Queensland, Australia   AUS
More the merrier if another Healey came too ! Could share spares - As long as we didn't both break the same thing at the same time !

Aagghhh - What am I saying ? NOTHING will break............thumbs up



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simon1966 Silver Member Simon Griffin
.Madison County, Illinois, USA   USA
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1954 Austin-Healey 100 "BEV"
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This will be fun to follow along with the preparations and the event.

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PAN Alwyn Keepence
Ipswich, Queensland, Australia   AUS
Hi Giles, I have sent a pm.

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Chris-D Chris D
Sydney, NSW, Australia   AUS
Good luck!
50 years ago today the first owners of my BJ8 set off on a 3 month overland trip from England to Australia.
The Donald Healey Motor company advice was a sump guard, and a side exhaust.
http://www.myaustinhealey.com/london-to-sydney-healey.html

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Qldelsie Silver Member Giles Cooper
Benowa, Queensland, Australia   AUS
Thanks Chris - I have seen that article somewhere before, so good to hear of the "personal" connection ! I wish all we had to do was put on a sump guard and a side exhaust !!
Are you going up to the AH Nationals on the Gold Coast next weekend ? Unfortunately I get back 2 days later !!
Giles



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Rozzer Ashton Roskill
Sydney, NSW, Australia   AUS
Hello,

I'm the other half of this madcap scheme and the owner of the poor BN1 which is going to carry us from Beijing to Paris in two years time.....hopefully

So any advice, thoughts, experience or pointers most gratefully received, and in the meantime we'll try to keep you updated with progress....

Here's what we are starting with:

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Qldelsie Silver Member Giles Cooper
Benowa, Queensland, Australia   AUS
One item we were planning on was to run 72 spoke wheels on the splined hubs, for max possible strength reasons. On reading about wheels from Moss, MWS etc, they say there is a possible clearance issue for 72 spoke wheels if the drum brakes are the "wide" option. Our car is a 1954 BN1 - How do I know if I have "narrow" or "wide" drum brakes ?? Anyone know the width of each so I can measure ours ?

We would actually prefer to get 15 x 5" steel disc wheels, which were a factory option, as we feel these would be the best option. As per the attached. But we are having trouble locating any of these. Anyone have any ideas or know of any splined/ knock off steel wheels hanging around somewhere in the back of someone's garage ?

A (second) linked question - What grease does one use on the wheel spinners. The existing stuff on ours looks pretty old, and I was wondering what most people use.

Cheers



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Ipswich, Queensland, Australia   AUS
Good day Giles,
To ascertain which Brake drums are fitted to the rear axle, check the number of studs that fasten the splined hub extension to the axle. Four stud axles have 1.75" wide brakes & five stud axles have 2.25" wide brakes. As the car is a BN1, the front brakes will be 1.75" wide.
The BN2 & BN4 (100-Six) models have 2.25" wide front brakes.
Steel disc wheels were standard on the 100-Six and wires were optional but the 100 was only offered with wire wheels.
If you try to fit Austin steel disc wheels to the rear they will rub on the body. I believe the 100-Six steel wheel cars have special brake drums with longer studs to space out the wheel. As no steel wheel 100-Sixes were imported to Australia "in the day" I reckon these drums might be hard to come by.
Only a very small amount of ordinary grease should be applied to the splines and none to the knock-on, except perhaps a little on the thread. The 'Rudge' pattern centrelock wheel relies on the tapers on the hub and inside the knock-on to do the driving. The splines should not be relied upon for anything except locating the wheel. That's why a copper hammer should be used to tighten them.

Qldelsie Silver Member Giles Cooper
Benowa, Queensland, Australia   AUS
Thanks Alwyn. We obviously have 1.75" wide brakes all round at present, but as we are upgrading from a 4 stud to 5 stud rear axle, our rear brakes will therefore presumably be 2.25". This leaves us with different size drums. I am not sure whether we will be able to fit 72 spoke by 5.5" wheels without encountering clearance problems.
Giles



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Qldelsie Silver Member Giles Cooper
Benowa, Queensland, Australia   AUS
What kind of fuel consumptions do people normally get from their standard 100/4's ? I know this is a "how long is a piece of string" question, but we are looking for the kind of consumptions we might expect under "good" conditions (ie cruising at 60 mph on good flat roads), "mountainous" conditions (ie climbing across mountain ranges with a full load on board), and "heavy going" conditions (ie driving on loose sand or gravel where one is having to work the car in a lower gear than usual).

Would 15 - 20 mpg (11 - 20 litres per 100 kms) at the worst be realistic ? Or could we expect worse than that in bad, like 10 mpg ?

Would appreciate actual real life experience of owners !

Our current tank is 12 imp gallon / 54.5 litres, and we are looking at adding another 8 galls / 36 litres. This would then give us a range of about 200 miles / 322 kms at 10 mpg / 28 litres per 100 kms, 300 miles / 482 kms at 15 mpg / 19 l/100 km, and 400 ,iles / 643 kms at 20 mpg / 14 l/100 kms.

Or do we need to add a bigger second tank ?? eye popping smiley

Thanks, Giles



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NaDaDawgRacer John Jones
Waxhaw, NC, USA   USA
Giles
Another thing to keep in mind or check out in detail is that the friend who told me about the P to P is because of the areas you will be traveling thru you can expect some really poor quality gasoline so detune the engine and expect even poorer performance.
John

Qldelsie Silver Member Giles Cooper
Benowa, Queensland, Australia   AUS
Thanks John - Yes, we are expecting low quality fuel !! We have a few secret remedies in mind !! Will let you know if they work !!

Completely different question for any Australian brethren on here. New steering boxes are quite expensive at £1150 or so from AH Spares. They say theirs are new, so presumably from India like the dampers etc - Nothing wrong with that, just trying to establish best options / sources. Is it more worthwhile / cost effective to get our current unit rebuilt locally ? If so, any one got contacts for a local Aussie place that does these for people ? Or do we just suck it up and go to AH Spares ?

Would also appreciate any comments from people about quality of steering boxes sourced from different places. After quite a lot of research, we have decided to buy our dampers from the USA, so if there was a highly recommended US source for steering boxes, we would be quite open to that option. We just need the best / strongest of everything, so everyone's comments and experience to help us find them is very much welcome.

Just to update our story, we have got down to the floor panels of the car over the weekend, and, being an ex California car (ie never in UK on the salty roads !) it is not in too bad a condition given its 63 years age. However there are a few weak areas, so we have decided to replace the 4 floor panels and the back plate behind the seats, that way we can be sure one of us won't disappear unnexpectedly through the floor in the middle of the Gobi Desert ! So these panels are now on order and will be put in when they arrive, along with moving the exhaust up into the side of the car, and the suspension pick up points all being reinforced. Couple of recent pics attached for your interest, but it is all being documented in our blog, the address of which is in my first post at the top of this thread.

Thanks for everyone's help and input - Really appreciated.

Giles

Pics are of floor, our pax side ready for cutting and exhaust fitment, and one of a car with raised exhaust already fitted.



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