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Building the dream 948 engine
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Dec 3, 2018 05:43 PM
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In reply to # 207210 by SpritelyStan
I race a Vintage Racing Bug Eye with a 995cc race engine and have built up quite a few heads and engines over the past 20 years. I started out with period hardware and have moved up to more competitive hardware now. I have a collection of header, head, cam & short block assemblies that may meet your needs. I would recommend a 3/4 type race motor with 10/1 compression ratio with a ported head. This would be similar of what was available during the 1960s with Healey Warwick Works Team. I will start out with pics of a ported head that I did myself from instructions by David Vizard "Tuning the A-Series Engine". Vizard is the Guru for earlier Competition Engine Builds. The head pics are attached and show Rocker Pedestal Shims (for optimizing length of push rod for a machined head for increased compression). This head was used for one race after having valves machined with 15, 30, 45 degree face for better flow. It uses Isky Street / Competition Double Valve Springs 100 lbs seat pressure and Isky Orange SP007 Light Weight Valve Retainer. I can provide additional details on all components mentioned if interested. My intention was to build up a period correct engine with a restored Sebring Sprite, but am working on other projects and realize that I should be letting this go to someone that would enjoy it. Pricing will be reasonable
Brace yourself for the rush, just kidding
You still got a few brave souls in vintage racing loyal to the 948, but most have gone to the 1275, but you find home for it with one of those guys.Member Services:
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In reply to # 207219 by Speedracer
So why not get one from them for the inline motor, they make them both ways.
In reply to # 206939 by pinkyponk
So will this Maniflow header fit any A series head? (I know so little) I realize the outlet end is facing the wrong way... but I have a welder.
Adrian
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So why not get one from them for the inline motor, they make them both ways.
Because the one I bought was on sale for three score and seventeen dollars.(77 bucks) The inline ones were closer to 300 bucks. I figured 20 minutes with a hacksaw and welder will save me a fair bit of coin. I shudda got 2.
Adrian
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Dec 7, 2018 04:17 AM
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In reply to # 207227 by pinkyponk
Because the one I bought was on sale for three score and seventeen dollars.(77 bucks) The inline ones were closer to 300 bucks. I figured 20 minutes with a hacksaw and welder will save me a fair bit of coin. I shudda got 2.
Adrian
In reply to # 207219 by Speedracer
So why not get one from them for the inline motor, they make them both ways.
In reply to # 206939 by pinkyponk
So will this Maniflow header fit any A series head? (I know so little) I realize the outlet end is facing the wrong way... but I have a welder.
Adrian
Adrian
So why not get one from them for the inline motor, they make them both ways.
Because the one I bought was on sale for three score and seventeen dollars.(77 bucks) The inline ones were closer to 300 bucks. I figured 20 minutes with a hacksaw and welder will save me a fair bit of coin. I shudda got 2.
Adrian
OH, OK, a buddy, he's a member here, Mike Miller, used to buy the cheap Mini LCB from Mini Spares and make them into a racing thru-the-trans-tunnel exhaust for the Spridgets, by cutting them and turning the direction of the down pipe.
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So... once I have my supercharged whiz bang 948/1050 what do I use for a clutch? Is the stock unit up to handling much added power? How much? Are there simple swaps/mods that a fella can do?
Adrian
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2018-12-10 03:31 PM by pinkyponk.
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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2018-12-10 03:31 PM by pinkyponk.
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Dec 9, 2018 12:30 AM
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Adrian,
I used a 6.25/6.5" Hillman Imp 998 diaphragm clutch; about twice the clamp pressure of a competition 9 spring clutch as supplied by BMC Special Tuning back in the day. No flywheel redrilling required (as would be for the 1275 clutch cover) and perfectly roadable. Use with the 1275 Midget/Sprite driven plate. If you were to consider the 1275 clutch, you might as well go to town and lightweight the flywheel and redrill it for the Hillman Hunter 7.5/7.25" clutch (as I did for the 1275 flywheels) but that would be serious over-engineering. Heavier too!
Good luck with your choices!
Roger
I used a 6.25/6.5" Hillman Imp 998 diaphragm clutch; about twice the clamp pressure of a competition 9 spring clutch as supplied by BMC Special Tuning back in the day. No flywheel redrilling required (as would be for the 1275 clutch cover) and perfectly roadable. Use with the 1275 Midget/Sprite driven plate. If you were to consider the 1275 clutch, you might as well go to town and lightweight the flywheel and redrill it for the Hillman Hunter 7.5/7.25" clutch (as I did for the 1275 flywheels) but that would be serious over-engineering. Heavier too!
Good luck with your choices!
Roger
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Simpler to buy than build with dino and history and world record holder. I would say it don't get any tricker for the price.
http://www.race-cars.com/engsales/other/1438141980/1438141980ss.htm
Manufacturer: BMC
Type: A series
Displacement: 999 cc
Horsepower: 99.1 @ 8,0000
Torque: 75.6 @ 6,300
Induction: Weber 45 DCOE with Maniflow
Heads: Longman 12G940,
Block: Thick flange A-series, decked .120
Main Caps: Strapped center main
Crankshaft: Rody custom billet, 2.45 stroke
Connecting Rods: Saenz 6
Pistons: J&E flat top, 2.815, gapless rings
Camshaft: Proprietary grind by Elgin, APT blank
Valves: 1.150 Rimflow exhaust, REC intake 1.475
Valve Train: Harlan Sharp rockers, Smiths pushrods, APE Kawasaki springs
Clutch: not included
Pressure Plate: not included
Flywheel: not included
Exhaust: Maniflow LCB (not pictured)
Total Time: less than 1 hour
Races: 1
Custom ground diaptre APT lifters, Gilmer belt cam drive with Kevlar belt, 40 mm chokes, 270 CFM, head flows average 127 cfm intake @ .500, exhaust 97 cfm @ .500, 28" water. 187.50psi BMEP @ 6300, 13.2:1 compression ratio, Cometic MLS head gasket, Vandervell VP 2 bearings, Electromotive XDi2 ECU with crank trigger and harness, all included except coil packs. Gilmer underdrive water pump, custom made. ARP head studs (11). Ishihara-Johnson crank scraper and windage tray.
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http://www.race-cars.com/engsales/other/1438141980/1438141980ss.htm
Manufacturer: BMC
Type: A series
Displacement: 999 cc
Horsepower: 99.1 @ 8,0000
Torque: 75.6 @ 6,300
Induction: Weber 45 DCOE with Maniflow
Heads: Longman 12G940,
Block: Thick flange A-series, decked .120
Main Caps: Strapped center main
Crankshaft: Rody custom billet, 2.45 stroke
Connecting Rods: Saenz 6
Pistons: J&E flat top, 2.815, gapless rings
Camshaft: Proprietary grind by Elgin, APT blank
Valves: 1.150 Rimflow exhaust, REC intake 1.475
Valve Train: Harlan Sharp rockers, Smiths pushrods, APE Kawasaki springs
Clutch: not included
Pressure Plate: not included
Flywheel: not included
Exhaust: Maniflow LCB (not pictured)
Total Time: less than 1 hour
Races: 1
Custom ground diaptre APT lifters, Gilmer belt cam drive with Kevlar belt, 40 mm chokes, 270 CFM, head flows average 127 cfm intake @ .500, exhaust 97 cfm @ .500, 28" water. 187.50psi BMEP @ 6300, 13.2:1 compression ratio, Cometic MLS head gasket, Vandervell VP 2 bearings, Electromotive XDi2 ECU with crank trigger and harness, all included except coil packs. Gilmer underdrive water pump, custom made. ARP head studs (11). Ishihara-Johnson crank scraper and windage tray.
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In reply to # 207218 by Speedracer
Keep in mind the 998 pistons have slightly taller compression height than the 948 pistons, so your piston to block deck height with the 998 is only be .015-.020" (compared to the 948 which like .050"-.060", that will also affect your compression ratio as well, as in higher CR. Also the 998 come with circlip and are made for floating rods, still same pin OD at .625", and not to say you could not grind a groove in the pin for the pinch bolt rods, just don't mess up
still getting a set of the 1098 rods made for the full floating pins is the better plan.
still getting a set of the 1098 rods made for the full floating pins is the better plan.
Is there a Maxpeeding rod to fit my project?
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Sorry... I should have been more specific. I should have asked if the 1275 ones will fit my 948. This ebay listing from Maxpeeding claims they do but I wanted to check with Hap on account of he recommended 1098 ones anyway. https://www.ebay.com/itm/For-Austin-Mini-Cooper-S-1275-A-series-Connecting-Rod-Conrod-Con-Rod-Rods-ARP-/151042374437
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Hi,
if you get hold of some A+ rods from a later A series engine they also have the press fit pins and are much stronger. Just completed a 998 engine using Keith Calvers recommendations in the UK.
see this article, that inspired the build.
https://www.minimania.com/Engine___998_Tuning_Further_Options
Site info
https://www.calverst.com/webshop/cylinder-head/
Running in engines
https://www.calverst.com/technical-info/running-in-new-engines/
Inspiration for decision to increase capacity from 948 to 998
SPECIAL TUNING FOR THE MIDGET AND SPRITE- British Leyland- for period reference
Keith Calver 998 tuning, further options- 948 makes 43HP Std, Modified 68-72 HP ( 60%+)
Aim: To produce an engine that looks completely original but has been modified to provide reliable increased power and better drivability.
List of improvements carried out, most parts from Calver Special Tuning Ltd,
Specification
Cylinder Head: Stage 3 small-bore
998 +020” High Flat top Quality pistons Std size for press fit gudgen pin (10.3:1), Silicone Squeeze Cast
Steel Rocker assembly 1.3:1
Cam Followers- specially made, ground & hardened
Camshaft- Piper BP255 hi-torque
Duplex timing gear with IWIS chain (Simplex not used, although lighter)
Timing cover to match, 2nd hand
Special main cap hardened washers & centre main cap- ARP
Spin on oil filter housing- I have original if needed.
Blanking plate fitted where fuel pump was.
Work carried out by- Perret Engineering, Stalbridge, Dorset UK
Crankshaft reground, Machine rear main bearing cap to accept lip seal conversion
Reface flywheel to accept 1275 Clutch & fit new ring gear
Dynamically balance Crank, flywheel & clutch assembly- Sigma Engineering used (Local legend for classic race cars)
Chemically clean block, core plugs +oil gallery bungs, big end & main bearings +0.30” + Thrusts.
Re-bore, hone, reface block, fit a+ conrods, balance- to pistons provided.
Catch tank for breathing fitted
LCB manifold, stainless, insulated/Lava Wrap, Sports exhaust to match.
Distributor
Lucas 25D, upgraded with Accuspark Electronic ignition, sent to H&H ignition services, adjust curve to road sport spec (Calver recommended).
Carbs
HS2- completely overhauled, major repair kit from SU Burlen, Salisbury
Butterfly valve shaft bushes (line bored) Talon engineering Yeovil 240915
Inlet manifold matched to head
K&N Pancake air filters bought from USA
GearBox
Original smooth case sent to Heathrow Trans. To fit new 1098 gear set, much better than 948, retains outward appearance.
Hope this helps, a full race engine is good, for racing. The ultimate road engine has better drivability and a lot cheaper to build.
Good luck Paul
Paul Ross
Mk1 1959 stage 3 998
Mk3 1967 K series 1800, road race spec.
BT7 1960 289 65 Hipo RHD conversion
if you get hold of some A+ rods from a later A series engine they also have the press fit pins and are much stronger. Just completed a 998 engine using Keith Calvers recommendations in the UK.
see this article, that inspired the build.
https://www.minimania.com/Engine___998_Tuning_Further_Options
Site info
https://www.calverst.com/webshop/cylinder-head/
Running in engines
https://www.calverst.com/technical-info/running-in-new-engines/
Inspiration for decision to increase capacity from 948 to 998
SPECIAL TUNING FOR THE MIDGET AND SPRITE- British Leyland- for period reference
Keith Calver 998 tuning, further options- 948 makes 43HP Std, Modified 68-72 HP ( 60%+)
Aim: To produce an engine that looks completely original but has been modified to provide reliable increased power and better drivability.
List of improvements carried out, most parts from Calver Special Tuning Ltd,
Specification
Cylinder Head: Stage 3 small-bore
998 +020” High Flat top Quality pistons Std size for press fit gudgen pin (10.3:1), Silicone Squeeze Cast
Steel Rocker assembly 1.3:1
Cam Followers- specially made, ground & hardened
Camshaft- Piper BP255 hi-torque
Duplex timing gear with IWIS chain (Simplex not used, although lighter)
Timing cover to match, 2nd hand
Special main cap hardened washers & centre main cap- ARP
Spin on oil filter housing- I have original if needed.
Blanking plate fitted where fuel pump was.
Work carried out by- Perret Engineering, Stalbridge, Dorset UK
Crankshaft reground, Machine rear main bearing cap to accept lip seal conversion
Reface flywheel to accept 1275 Clutch & fit new ring gear
Dynamically balance Crank, flywheel & clutch assembly- Sigma Engineering used (Local legend for classic race cars)
Chemically clean block, core plugs +oil gallery bungs, big end & main bearings +0.30” + Thrusts.
Re-bore, hone, reface block, fit a+ conrods, balance- to pistons provided.
Catch tank for breathing fitted
LCB manifold, stainless, insulated/Lava Wrap, Sports exhaust to match.
Distributor
Lucas 25D, upgraded with Accuspark Electronic ignition, sent to H&H ignition services, adjust curve to road sport spec (Calver recommended).
Carbs
HS2- completely overhauled, major repair kit from SU Burlen, Salisbury
Butterfly valve shaft bushes (line bored) Talon engineering Yeovil 240915
Inlet manifold matched to head
K&N Pancake air filters bought from USA
GearBox
Original smooth case sent to Heathrow Trans. To fit new 1098 gear set, much better than 948, retains outward appearance.
Hope this helps, a full race engine is good, for racing. The ultimate road engine has better drivability and a lot cheaper to build.
Good luck Paul
Paul Ross
Mk1 1959 stage 3 998
Mk3 1967 K series 1800, road race spec.
BT7 1960 289 65 Hipo RHD conversion
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May 20, 2019 12:29 PM
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This sure looks like a Maxpeeding rod. https://selbyraceengines.com/selby-m7-connecting-rods/ They are a bit dear from this supplier.
The little end bush looks like the sticking point on the cheap Maxpeeding ones.
Adrian
The little end bush looks like the sticking point on the cheap Maxpeeding ones.
Adrian
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